I try to be present every day – it’s called being mindful. And I certainly try to be kind. But have you ever heard of mindful kindness? Dr. Doug Carnine has made a study of it – and he’s done it with the last people you’d ever think would be mindful OR kind…inmates. Dr. Carnine was at the University of Oregon for 35 years and had a pretty impressive career, including getting a presidential appointment to the National Institute for Literacy. He also became a Buddhist lay minister. After he retired, Doctor Carnine developed a mindful kindness project that includes a prison ministry and a couple of books. He joins me today to talk about how mindful kindness works in real life, and how it can even help you feel younger.